From: IIIII@lllll.com (Nobody U Know)
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: AOL support of Torricelli]
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:07:56 GMT
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X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.478On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:00:33 -0800, Wayne Strang
wrote: > Incidentally NUK, which of those bills do you favor? Just curious.
> Moi
None! The current situation is what I thrive on. While Torricelli and a few others certainly have some appeal because they legitimize spam, the results would be pretty disastrous: a HUMONGOUS amount of spam in the short-run that would make people even more upset than they are now, and 2) a bunch of newbie companies would be looking for more "experienced spammers" to send their mail. While that would help me out big-time very quickly, it would also mean the resurgence of Spamford,Rines,Hufnal, and other cretins that have destroyed the medium and would F%$# it up even more if it was legitimized. I think legislation making spam legit would soon lead to a very firm ban of it right afterwards.
I don't think there is anyway there will not be legislation passed in some form in 1998 about UCE, and I guess Torricelli would be my choice as a spammer. No matter which, spamming is doomed to failure over the long-term, and the profits are short-term only. With Torricelli, a large amount of money could be made by a spammer like me for a few months, and then I think the enormous outcry from too much spam would spell the legal end of spam.
As it is now, it's tough for people to spam without hijacking or forging or trying to abuse ISP's with a $20 a month account. That has been a real windfall for me the past several months(and the IRS too it looks like:). The less competition, the better. Torricelli=lots of competition, and a quick death to UCE.
I can see where every anti-spammer would favor Smith. Probably your least favorite would be Torricelli, but I have a feeling the result of Torricelli in action would cause spam to die forever with something like the Smith bill following it0. You know how damn wishy-washy and namby-pamby Congress is: they hate to do anything definitive or concrete because they are afraid one voter or donor out of million will be mad. They'll probably take a stab at the spam issue by "regulating it," and making it a big mess with something like Torricelli. After that, something like Smith will be overwhelmingly supported as every netizen and ISP screams about the massive amount of UCE.
I can honestly see 200-300 UCE's per USER if Torricelli passes. I think that is something horrifying that would spur efforts to ban spam with legislation that almost every congressman would endorse and plow it through any red-tape or watering-down.. Certainly I don't want to compete with 299 other messages going into someone's mailbox or see the Internet completely destroyed.